Beatnik Bandits
General Discussion => ArmA2 => Chenarus Epoch Server => Topic started by: Sandman on August 02, 2015, 11:52:35 AM
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While the black missions are still in development and definitely need more work , I do think they are starting to come together a bit more now. What I would like from the server population, is some ideas of what you would like to see in the loot crate that would drive you to take on one of these missions with several of your closest server friends.
Sand
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very rare loot such as an rpg or grenade launcher, plus building components that are quite rare like lockboxes etc
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Baked beans, Heinz brand.
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Ok guys, good ideas along with the silly stuff :P. Would like to have some items, like building mats spawn in regular amounts. I had forgotten about grenade launchers, can have that in a random mix with some other rare weapons and other types of launchers.
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I'm happy with whatever. You guys do the right stuff all the time so I'll just sit back and enjoy.
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It's no problem Dark, and thanks for the vote of confidence. You guys are welcome to have fun with this thread. I guess there is only so much that can be put into a loot crate though; just looking for some ideas. Maybe a lockable vehicle nearby with the key in the loot or something?
I'm guess I'm looking for some incentive to get some team participation on these missions along the lines of 3 or 4 or more guys assaulting on the ground and another flying pickups and making hot LZs for a loot share. Fun for all! :)
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I myself, am not too interested in the black missions, I am more of a green mission lover, and the occasional red mission if the team is there.
But... If I were to be doing black missions, The difficulty of the mission might help what the crate spawns.
Green mountain I believe is the easiest black mission and I don't think it the loot should be too op :P Possibly some building materials and some more sought-after ammo types. So maybe some concrete walls, Full metal floors, Safes, M2 Machinegun ammo, M134 ammo, Possibly make this one an IKEA crash with ammo?!
Devils castle is a bit harder, So the loot may correspond to that difficulty? Devils castle is where I saw the real power of the M2 Humvee, So going along with your previous post sand, Maybe a lockable M2 humvee spawn along with the loot? Base building materials in a larger quantity, and again, Ammo?
Now, Skalisty island..... Mother of god.
I myself have seen the true potential Skalisty has to F*** up even the best and most cautious of players.
To go back on the spawned in vehicles, Something like an ASUV and a Radar chopper would be cool to have spawn with the Skalisty mission, The crate would be a different story.
For the crate, I would love to see just a massive amount of building materials, Ammo for the vehicles, And possibly something special, Like a launcher? I know I would personally love to see a javelin in that loot. (I think those are in the game?) If not, I would love to see a stinger, Something that really sets aside the boys and girls from the women and men.
There ya have it, My opinion on the loot spawns for the black missions!
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Thanks for the suggestions Joe, I can agree with a lot of that. It will take a little time for the missions to settle out and actually show their true difficulty, and the loot can be adjusted according to that.
I am not really sure if green Mountain or Devils Castle is the tougher of those two. I originally thought the Green Mountain mission was going to be the easiest since the helis have a way of suiciding into the tower and the M2's are pretty easy to pick off from cover. I think what makes it so tough is fighting the foot soldiers in the woods.
Devil's Castle has the open area around it that makes the heli and Humvee AI more effective, but it also makes the ground troops more snipable and the M2s are mostly inside the castle walls.
I also agree about Skalisty being the toughest. It has always been my aim to make a mission that was almost mandatory to have a larger, coordinated team on and Skalisty is getting close. I don't know if I have any inclination to soften it up either, but I do intend to sweeten the loot to the point it makes it worthwhile.
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Cinder half walls, cinders, mortar, cinder garage doorways would be nice.
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Thanks for the suggestions Joe, I can agree with a lot of that. It will take a little time for the missions to settle out and actually show their true difficulty, and the loot can be adjusted according to that.
I am not really sure if green Mountain or Devils Castle is the tougher of those two. I originally thought the Green Mountain mission was going to be the easiest since the helis have a way of suiciding into the tower and the M2's are pretty easy to pick off from cover. I think what makes it so tough is fighting the foot soldiers in the woods.
Devil's Castle has the open area around it that makes the heli and Humvee AI more effective, but it also makes the ground troops more snipable and the M2s are mostly inside the castle walls.
I also agree about Skalisty being the toughest. It has always been my aim to make a mission that was almost mandatory to have a larger, coordinated team on and Skalisty is getting close. I don't know if I have any inclination to soften it up either, but I do intend to sweeten the loot to the point it makes it worthwhile.
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Sounds awesome sand, Devils castle is most definitely harder :P
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A special Hero trader down at my base, so i can shoot him in the face as i log in! :3 But really, Rare building supplies and new weapons if even possible would be awesome.
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i think a harrier parked at the center of the mission that you could sell at hero trader for 9999999999999999999999999999999 breifs would be spiffing
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If we could have an item in the crate that spawns a unique vehicle / key that can't be gotten anywhere else and plays a sound bite from https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uQ0BXUkzRqM it would be pretty epic.
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Now that is funny Andy!!!!
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I would really like to see fewer stanag mag weapons and more M107 type or long range sniper rifles. I think the occasional lockbox or safe would be kind of cool. I don't know where I would put another safe, but I like the idea anyhow... :o
I also get the idea of the vehicles that are part of some of the missions are temp vehicle and will be gone after a restart, but is it possible to have a certain vehicle that is not available at any trader occasionally spawn that a player can keep?
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what bloody said
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Thanks for all the good suggestions. The black missions are still a WIP as are the loot rewards. I do hope to have the loot adjusted according to difficulty soon. Right now, I have no way of making any vehicle that spawns in them permanent without making all mission vehicles permanent, which would soon damage the framerate, but I will figure something out. I did however, manage to keep the loot crates from popping up in the air out of reach. ;D
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Well the weapons in the crate at the black missions are more of an afterthought , but the AI should have some good guns on em. The special items, are the actual loot. I am still working on a way to get other high-value items in the mix but I hope to at least put enough gold at the missions to make it worthwhile for the time being. One problem is that the black and the colored missons are on the same loot system, so what I do for one can affect the other and it limits some of my loot choices. I am working on some ways around that but a simple pile of briefs might have to be the loot for the time being.